I have been relflecting on my past salvia divinorum experiences and they are very personal to me but I wanted to share a common one that I had and to see if any others have experienced the same.
When I would take take the extract in concentrated form I would be engulfed in a whirl-wind then it would seem that time, yes time itself, as though time had become somthing quite tangible and solid would begin to fold in on itself and take the form of a wheel. Within the wheel was a common experience, often one from my past, inextricably woven in this time-wheel repeating constantly. And it was as though I could enter this and that I had been given access to a matrix, a grand central station, of space and time and yet at the same time was outside of time viewing all at a distance.
When I would take take the extract in concentrated form I would be engulfed in a whirl-wind then it would seem that time, yes time itself, as though time had become somthing quite tangible and solid would begin to fold in on itself and take the form of a wheel. Within the wheel was a common experience, often one from my past, inextricably woven in this time-wheel repeating constantly. And it was as though I could enter this and that I had been given access to a matrix, a grand central station, of space and time and yet at the same time was outside of time viewing all at a distance.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Sat, January 26, 2008 - 12:57 PMYes, I too have experienced this "wheel of time/space"
The closest I have come to an objective or shall I say a theory of what this could be, is in the realm of quantum physics and M theory.
Look up the Calabi-Yau manifold.
Something about the description of it, and the abstract 3D representations of this higher dimensional space, really seem to remind me of what I was experiencing during the deepest part of one of my most intense salvia journeys.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Sat, January 26, 2008 - 3:31 PMwe discussed this in the DMT tribe once, a very interesting phenomona. i could hardly find anyone with "WHEEL" experience to discuss this with. I have been collecting data for awhile and think about it often. My attention perks when I hear it referenced.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Sat, January 26, 2008 - 4:16 PMThe wheel is a routing spindle for the fibration of dimension six. Keep back at a safe distance or the Salvians will not be happy about it. The intention spiders will not be able to process your request, and you will be temporarily reassigned. VERY disorienting. -
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 10:14 AMThe wheel for me, seemed more spherical, taking on depths and distances that I have never been able to experience.
What I perceived as looking down, I saw a huge spinning vortex of black plastic/plasma, shimmery stuff... almost like it cradled me. It pulled up around me, jagged and shot up.
What I perceived as looking up, I saw the spinning of this black substance, and it seemed like a huge ferris wheel or moving mandala. As the pillars of black substance spun around, and folded around me in a very symmetrical way... there was colors and shapes I had never seen before, that went beyond my normal perception of 3 dimensional space. It was very exiting.
I sensed that I was being shown something of great importance, and I'm still processing it. Years later.
It is so incredibly interesting to me, knowing others have been inside this space... whatever it is... just knowing others have experienced it, is a joy to know.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Wed, February 6, 2008 - 11:21 AMA couple of seconds after my last exhalation the ceiling opened up into a matrix of spinning gears that caught me and pulled me through their maze of machinery. The movement was very fast and confusing and soon I was holding a woman's hand, a mothers hand and she was running with me - leading me into the empty space at the centre of everything and there the question was asked to me of who I was.
Of course I had no idea - but then the flipping began.
The flipping happened in a spiral pattern - beginning with my earliest memories of myself and progressing through my life. Flip flip flip - and each time I was sure I was back, but then...flip...
the spiral growing tighter and tighter until I saw the lake from above, I saw the whole valley and my house and friends, curling around the last curve of the spiral, there was my partner, "Is that who I am?" ...flip... and then I was in this body where I had started, sitting on the bed.
So mine was a flipping spiral of time I suppose.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Mon, February 11, 2008 - 10:14 PMEvery time I take a dose become engulfed an a place of folding. The folding comes from nothing and goes back to nothing -
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Thu, February 14, 2008 - 9:27 PMI find it so amazing that so many people describe this similar "space/time" that salvia takes us to. Or that salvia allows us to experience, by letting us get past our typical five senses and 3D.
I know I have said all this before, but we all know how unique and awe inspiring this plant is. I am fascinated.
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Fri, February 15, 2008 - 12:29 AMI love what you just said. That would have inspired me to smoke some If I was in the mood. Its about time for sleep though...
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Sat, March 1, 2008 - 9:38 PMI think i'm just now starting to reach this space myself, I was curious what to do there and this post/ the replies should help - thanks! Will post my report seperately... -
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Re: The Folding Wheel of Time
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 11:49 AMit seems to me that awarness is driven by the sences, while consciousness is what forms the sences, a life force the sences use to be aware. When completely face to face with consciousness, I get the impression 'that you cant talk about it, because your using it to talk with'. I feel that what is happening is some sort of bridge is being constructed, by the sences, driven by consciousness. And once this bridge is complete, we will be and understand that we are not the body of sence but the body of mind. From day one, the abilitys of our imagination lay dormat within. Life is about completeing the ground work in order for these lantent abilitys to be made manifest in the here and now. We are on the cusp of a great event,
spiritual awakening among the higher nervous sytems on this planet is a sign that life on this planet is about to come upon something barley imaginable. Love and the awarness of spirit are discoverys, that we as higher nervous systems have found during the un-folding of our evolution, and the fine tuning of our sensitivitys.
Life is about ecstatic communication, anger is a form of violence, the higher nervous systems are weening from violent forms communication, the higher nervous systems realize that conflict between each other is not a personal affair unless we filter conflict thru the ego and turn conflict into drama, into violence and anger. Thus causing the circle of conflict to continue.
the higher nervous systems have evolved to to realize that conflict must be dealt with using "the well being of all and everyone" as or goal. Conflict is a force in nature, not a force to seperate men, but to bring them together, the more conflict dealt with as a loving whole, the closer we attain the paradise that is waiting for us here and now.
May man realize the paper thin nature of conflict, realize our true power within, may the momentum of our love spread and awaken our great family, to see each other as the divine within, to see one another with the eyes of spirit, to permanently keep open our awarness and not let us close our hearts and fall back into states of blindness and fear, may our hearts stay open and approach one another with honesty and clarity.
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