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Hey folks, recently I and my company Mazatec Garden were featured on the front page of the New York Times and The Dallas Morning News (NYT www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09...salvia.html ) DMN www.dallasnews.com/sharedco...79fa.html ). The next day I appeared on the Today Show and I was asked to do more interviews by Dr. Phil and an AM shock DJ named Mancow (I declined those 2 interviews). All the hubbub is because they are trying again this year to criminalize Salvia in Texas (and other states). The New York Times and The Today Show quoted me out of context, but the Dallas Morning News pretty much quoted me on what I am trying to get across to the public and to legislators. I am trying to use all this media attention I am getting to get support for legislation in Texas and other states that would restrict Salvia divinorum to only allow possesion and sale of Salvia divinorum to adults 18 years of age or older. Such legislation has passed in California and Maine, and was introduced into the Texas legislature last year ( www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...ory.aspx ) along with 2 bills that would criminalize Salvia divinorum outright. It is my opinion that states which restrict Salvia possesion and sale to minors are far less likely to criminalize Salvia in the future, as the main driving point of Salvia criminalization seems to be that there is no restriction for minors. If anyone is interested in getting involved with a letter writting campaign supporting this legislation, please contact me at info@mazatecgarden.com
You can find out more information about the legal status of Salvia divinorum in Texas and other states here: www.erowid.org/plants/sal...a_law.shtml
peace,
Brian Arthur
You can find out more information about the legal status of Salvia divinorum in Texas and other states here: www.erowid.org/plants/sal...a_law.shtml
peace,
Brian Arthur
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Mon, October 20, 2008 - 1:03 PMSounds like a good plan. Please post names and addresses of those introducing legislation or on committee. -
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Wed, November 12, 2008 - 3:00 PM"Doc" Anderson is the one who introduced the legislation (he just put it in on Monday). He was on the Dr. Phil show yesterday, the episode was "Dangerous Teen Behavior". Right after the Salvia part of the show (where some teen said he was addicted to Salvia and video games), they had a kid on who held his breath while riding rollercoasters... something definitely should be done about that! Anyway, I have a meeting with the ACLU in Austin in early December, and they are going to help me with a Salvia defense strategy. I am supposed to gather info on medical research and other hard Salvia data for the meeting (good ar bad), so email me at info@mazatecgarden.com if you've know anything that isn't on Erowid, Sage Wisdom, or MAPS. I will post more info here when I get it. The ACLU says that you need to write your representative, and maybe write committee members when this is being considered. BTW, Salvia was also featured on a "teen dangers" episode of The Doctors 2 days ago. They had a guy smoke Salvia on the show, then stagger around a bit. He said that driving would be bad, that is all they could come up with, but warned that "who knows, maybe it could cause brain damage in 10 years". -
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Wed, November 12, 2008 - 5:59 PMI can hardley believe how far man has drifted from his own soul.
Fuck everything, make it all illegal, except working and destroying the environment, more money for armys, more propaganda for patriotism.
Skin colour is important and does mean something. Stronger borders!! Everybody vote!!! The planet is not completely run over by stupidity, there are still pockets of free thinking. Fuck it, everyone just kill yourselves, end it all!!! -
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Thu, November 13, 2008 - 2:17 PMA couple thoughts. First, when a state law was proposed in California to outlaw salvia altogether, it took a fairly small group of concerned citizens registering disagreement with that policy to successfully prevent the law from passing. The following year CA passed a much less restrictive law prohibiting the sale of salvia to minors.
Daniel Siebert has some excellent letters on his site which can serve as good examples for the kind of things to mention to legislature:
sagewisdom.org/lettertocsa.pdf
One of the main arguments opponents of outlawing salvia have put forth is that doing so would inhibit important pharmacological research into the unique properties of salvinorin A. It's important to realize that this isn't just blowing smoke -- salvinorin A is a potent and highly-selective kappa opioid agonist, which is extremely unique. Even a very basic familiarity with the research currently being done with salvinorin A would probably be useful. It's worth browsing some of the recent research abstracts:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Thu, November 13, 2008 - 9:06 PMyeah, Lux has a better approach then myself. !
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 12:17 PMLux, do you know where I can find more about medical research on Salvia? The guy from the New York Times said he talked to researchers who were looking at Salvinorin as a possible treatment for depression and alzheimers. The abstracts you posted seem to be generalized research, it would be good if I could find something that said something like "so and so researcher states that Salvinorin could be helpful for _______ condition". -
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Wed, November 19, 2008 - 8:04 AMHere is one case study from 2002 mentioned on Erowid, but isn't the greatest example:
There is one case report currently published in the mainstream medical literature, the abstract can be found in the erowid reference vaults at: erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=1316. The case involves a woman who used Salvia divinorum orally 2-3 times per week and found a complete remission of her depressive symptoms, despite being warned against using it by her doctor.
Ms. G volunteered that she has also benefited from occasional intoxicating oral doses of salvia divinorum, consisting of from 8–16 leaves of the herb (approximately 2 to 4 grams), claiming that this herb had engendered a kind of "psychospiritual" awakening, characterized by the discovery of the depth of her sense of self, greater self-confidence, increased feelings of intuitive wisdom and "connectedness to nature." (Hanes 2001) -
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Wed, November 19, 2008 - 8:06 AMOk, this is better, from Wikipedia:
Therapeutic potential
Aside from individual reports of self-medicated use in the treatment of depression,[45][46] research suggests that Salvia divinorum, in line with the studied effects of other k-opioid agonists,[47] may have further therapeutic potential.
Thomas Prisinzano, assistant professor of medicinal and natural products chemistry at the University of Iowa, has suggested that salvia may help treat cocaine addiction
“ You can give a rat free access to cocaine, give them free access to Salvinorin A, and they stop taking cocaine.”
Masis 2007-02-28 (US Media)
Professor Bryan L. Roth, director of the National Institute on Mental Health’s Psychoactive Drug Screening Program, has said
“ We think that drugs derived from the active ingredient could be useful for a range of diseases: Alzheimer’s, depression, schizophrenia, chronic pain and even AIDS or HIV.”
Viren 2007-08-23 (US Media)
Clinical pharmacologist John Mendelsohn has also said
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There may be some derivatives that could be made that would actually be active against cancer and HIV [...] At the present time, there are a lot of therapeutic targets that have many people excited.”
An ABC news story which reported on this went on to suggest “the excitement could vanish overnight if the federal government criminalizes the sale or possession of salvia, as the Drug Enforcement Agency is considering doing right now.”[46] A proposed Schedule I classification would mean (among other things) that there’s no “currently accepted medical use” as far as the United States government is concerned.[48] Scientists worry that such legislation would restrict further work.[49][50] Mendelsohn said scheduling salvia could scare away a great deal of research and development into salvia’s therapeutic promise.[46]
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Sun, November 16, 2008 - 3:07 PMwww.earthrites.org/invisibl...ugh07.pdf Go to page 22... where-in you'll see what was done in Oregon to keep it legal.
With that said, the reason it is being made illegal is that it is untaxed, and unregulated, with an increasing usage by underage trippers.
I know you are a vendor, and there-in lies the problem. 'The Vending'. I remember when you started out, and sent me a sample, all those years ago. (you had a great product and I am sure it still is) I wish you the best Flakey, but to many in the community vendors are part of the problem and not the solution. If anyone had actually listened to Terence McKenna about the opprotunity that was being presented with this plant, the sale of anything but the live plant would not be occuring. Head shops, and internet sales are a sure fire flag for certain agencies.
I really don't think you can commercialize a gift from the Goddess, and not expect chaos to rear its head. Next we'll see illegalization, then drug cartels pushing and all the attending mess.
Pax,
Gwyllm
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Re: Calling for letter writers in Texas to keep Salvia legal
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 12:11 PMThe big headshop distributors don't care about Terrance McKenna, they just want to get paid. Once they heard about Daniel Siebert's "new LSD" it was all over. Not sure when McKenna made that comment, but if it was after the New York Times and LA Times articles came out in 2001, then it was extraordinarily irrelevant, as were all of Siebert's pleas that Salvia shouldn't be sold in headshops. He let the cat out of the bag, and headshop sales of Salvia were the consequence of his actions. Still headshops in all states do restrict the sale of there products to adults over 18, and as I have argued many times, a headshop customer is no more or less likely to be responsible than an internet buyer, but are probably more likely to not be a minor. I am sure the big distributors pay taxes on their sales, we of course pay taxes on ours. Saliva is regulated in California and Maine, I would like to see it regulated that way in more states, restrict Salvia's use by minors, they don't really like it much anyway. I don't know what community you are talking about, but I have provided Salvia to over 100,000 people in my community. Most of those people are grateful that they had the oportuninty to experience Salvia, and would have never had the experience if they had to somehow find and grow a plant, not everyone in our society is a farmer. If you want to get all spiritual about it (like folks who advocate the "growing your own plant is the only possible way to have a productive Salvia experience" approach are likely to do), consider this: When I first tried Salvia, I felt compelled to share it with as many people as possible (almost as if Salvia told me to do that). I didn't plan on starting a business, I just wanted to share, but things turned out the way they turned out. I sincerely feel that almost every adult should try Salvia. Many who try it will not like Salvia, but won't be the worse for wear. Others might enjoy Salvia in a recreational way, not in the way that spiritual users of Salvia might like them to experience it, but still they are none the worse for wear. Still others will find that Salvia is a profound experience and find themselves moved in a way that they were not looking for, and did not expect. They will have truly benefitted from the Salvia experience. If Daniel Siebert had not started producing and selling Salvia extracts, Salvia would be an obscure plant in the hands of a few psychedelic collectors. Since Daniel Siebert started selling Salvia online the New York Times estimates that over 2 million people have had a Salvia experience. It is impossible to say how many of those have been positive experiences, but if say 1 million Americans have had a positve Salvia experience, I believe that is a great thing for our culture and for our world. As far as drug cartels go, forget about it. Salvia isn't addictive and probably is only popular because it is legal. I've only heard of 1 person getting arrested in a state where Salvia is illegal, and have heard of no drug dealers in those states selling Salvia.
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